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in southern israel. by missiles that were launched on purpose at civilians all the israeli attacks on us military targets i mean honestly i don't know what it is i think has what israel woman has being killed dozens of children have injured and then you know as i started more of this is what happens ok you know i mean i jump in go ahead. you know but i would like to. then talks about using human shields and targeting civilians so how the current round begin there was a lull until november eighth november eighth israel with its height precision technology israel killed a palestinian child then there was retaliatory by the palestinian this is this is as usual are going to not already there wasn't all a fire down there were hundreds and hundreds of this was on fire and on fire and they're going to have to let me talk to you then you're going to have to behave let me talk you get your time when you're always going to retaliate by firing them. by firing on israeli soldiers so how israel retaliate israel where
in southern israel. by missiles that were launched on purpose at civilians all the israeli attacks on us military targets i mean honestly i don't know what it is i think has what israel woman has being killed dozens of children have injured and then you know as i started more of this is what happens ok you know i mean i jump in go ahead. you know but i would like to. then talks about using human shields and targeting civilians so how the current round begin there was a lull until november...
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in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine or today or in the next round now peter you mentioned the seeds i mean there are underlying factors here there is the occupation there is that continuously deprived right of self-determination of the palestinian people and of course in more recent years there is a siege and blockade of the gaza strip that's the context what we're seeing now is a symptom of the cause rather than the cause itself. which i can reply that greg. sure the first of all the newspaper was. second of all accusations of mass murder. you know nece
in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two...
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is that regardless of how israel may see i think at the end of the day israel's decision makers for a west bank palestinian authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you were said earlier first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse's position on a two state settlement has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven
is that regardless of how israel may see i think at the end of the day israel's decision makers for a west bank palestinian authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you were said earlier first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that...
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and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you and resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for hope and dialogue, any hope of peace would be out of reach. israel has always extended its hand in peace and will always extend its hand for peace. when we faced an arab leader who wanted peace, we made peace. time and again, we have been met with rejection for our offers and denial of our rights and terrorism. the only thing his story about this speech how much he has ignored history. the truth is that 65 years ago today, the united nations voted to petition the bri
and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you...
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the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportunity to -- or the ability to strike at our 5.5 million israelis who were under rocket fire. >> we talked about this, ambassador, a few hours ago. there have now been apparently five rockets launched. a number of them intercepted. but three of them landed in southern israel. how do you see that? how seriously do you take that in terms of a violation of the cease-fire thus far? >> we assumed it would take a while for the cease-fire to take hold. i understand now it has taken hold. there hasn't been fire for a while. of course, we are not firing. there is a cease-fire, anderson. >> all right. ambassador oren, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >>>
the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportunity to -- or the ability to strike at our 5.5 million israelis who were under rocket fire....
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our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of state will play a very dominant role. after all, her husband came the closest of anybody to establishing a two-state solution. so she knows exactly where all of this stands and what might be able to solve what has been an historic and very difficult situation. >> part of the problem for mahmoud abbas is that he's being increasingly seen to be marginalized. hamas seem to be the emerging power there with more control perhaps over the body of palestinians, and he is seen as somebody slightly out of touch from where the real action is. n
our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of...
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what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do so. i think that's the broad outlines of a cease-fire. a long-term cease-fire. i think it's very doable. >> think about the implications of that. it means the good exchange he talks about is israel stops doing what's legal and that is a blockade and killing terrorists, in exchange for hamas stop doing a double war crime. that's not the way the world should operate. >> let's talk about what is in israel's benefit. what is in israel's benefit and what is the alternative shimon peres was asking about was recognizing they
what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do...
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anti-israel. he calls israel terrorist day today. egypt is run by the brotherhood, as you know is the mother organization of hamas. which is simply palestinian wing of the egyptian muslim brotherhood. lastly, they dropped in a month ago and left behind half a million dollars. there are an array of countries. what is hamas trying to do? translate the increase in strength to new agreements. the demands are for the cease-fire that israel agrees not to attack again. to allow hamas to build up its weaponry. and pledge not to hit any hamas leaders, and not to hit in the future any hamas weapons or missiles. which means it would have a truce, it will never have a peace. but have a truce. hoodna. during which they will become extremely strong, develop hundreds of thousands of rockets that can hit israel. can hit tell avive and jerusalem. and -- tel aviv and jerusalem and put 80% of israel under the rocket. israel will never agree to that. that is slow suicide. so, as long as hamas is demanding that. offen
anti-israel. he calls israel terrorist day today. egypt is run by the brotherhood, as you know is the mother organization of hamas. which is simply palestinian wing of the egyptian muslim brotherhood. lastly, they dropped in a month ago and left behind half a million dollars. there are an array of countries. what is hamas trying to do? translate the increase in strength to new agreements. the demands are for the cease-fire that israel agrees not to attack again. to allow hamas to build up its...
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and israel has shown remarkable restraint but now what israel has done is to capitated the military command of hamas and attacked the missile storage spots and that's what they've done so far the next step is up to hamas unfortunately i'm told by the i.d.f. in the last twenty four hours two hundred forty five missiles have been launched that israel so if they continue to do that i'm sure there will be additional attacks up to and including a ground assault if that's the only way for israel to defend itself ok norman where do you came in on this i mean another ground assault you've written a book about the last one. i don't think there will be a ground assault with i do think it's true that it's pretty similar in the build up to what happened in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine back then israel was worried about what it called the parents capacity means its ability to terrorize people in the region after the defeat it suffered in two thousand and six by the party of god that has been and now israel has been suffering one foreign relations debacle after another first there
and israel has shown remarkable restraint but now what israel has done is to capitated the military command of hamas and attacked the missile storage spots and that's what they've done so far the next step is up to hamas unfortunately i'm told by the i.d.f. in the last twenty four hours two hundred forty five missiles have been launched that israel so if they continue to do that i'm sure there will be additional attacks up to and including a ground assault if that's the only way for israel to...
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how does israel know he's inside there? >> israel is in the neighborhood. they have been there for quite some time. they have to own the neighborhood in order to live there. so israel has sources and has folks on the ground in gaza and they have forever. so they have a pretty good sense of what's going on and they're tracking very key targets as a result of that kind of what i would call intimate human intelligence they can get. clearly israel sees the media outlets in gaza as a means to distribute what they would call operational information. so in their mind, it meets the criteria for engagement. >> israel said it's being very, very careful not to hit civilians. in your mind is it being careful enough? >> oh, sure. israel really needs to do that. and they -- and they will do their utmost. they have precision guided weapons. they also have, as i have indicated, they probably have folks on the ground that are lazing or illuminating targets as well. h is all very, very covert. they have to be able to do that to try to minimize the collateral damage at this e
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have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you have to keep in mind, erin, that here in gaza, they don't have early warning systems. they don't have bomb shelters. they don't have an iron dome system to protect them. so, they feel very exposed. don't see a lot of people out in the street. when they do go out, they do it so very quickly. they get supplies. and really, they're just watching the television. listening to the news. awaiting to see if israel is going to go ahead with its ground incursion because as difficult as the situation is now, it will become much, much worse if
have actually struck israel. another 307 have been intercepted by israel's so-called iron dome defense system. meanwhile, israel carried out 80 strikes today. it has now targeted 1,300 sites in gaza since it began its bombing campaign last wednesday. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, how are civilians dealing with this conflict? some of those numbers we hear, 870 people injured are frightening. >> yeah, they're not dealing very well with it. it's a very difficult situation. you...
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so israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. just to bring you up to date on a story again we're hearing from the reuters news agency just repeat what i mentioned a second ago. in israel has been agreed according to a palestinian official with knowledge of talks talking to reuters we will get more we want to confirm for you before we go any further course on the line now to talk about the military aspect of the conflict between gaza and israel. colonel it's currently an advisor of national security on the line with us thank you very much for taking the time to be on our international we know potentially on the brink of a ground invasion. this cease fire i just talked about notwithstanding of course we're trying to get more information on the you served in the israeli army for twenty eight years do you believe an invasion though would solve the issue of rocket fire so the airstrikes have been able to do so far. i think the ground operation by itself is not. it's not the main goal the main goal is to make sure that no further miss
so israel is not winding down its assault on gaza. just to bring you up to date on a story again we're hearing from the reuters news agency just repeat what i mentioned a second ago. in israel has been agreed according to a palestinian official with knowledge of talks talking to reuters we will get more we want to confirm for you before we go any further course on the line now to talk about the military aspect of the conflict between gaza and israel. colonel it's currently an advisor of...
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toward israel. they say they have been able to intercept more than a third of those rockets and the interceptor with a system called iron dome. fred pleitgen along the israel side of the gaza border in towns like ashkelon and elsewhere, he got an up close look at how iron dome works. take a look. >> reporter: a kill that possibly saved lives on the ground. this video shows an iron dome missile intercepting a rocket fired from gaza at tel aviv on sunday. the defense system had just been installed in israel's largest city a few hours earlier. several days into the conflict, it is already clear the iron dome is having a big impact picking off hundreds of rockets. i got a tour of the israel aircraft industries plant that installs the system. this doctor is one of those in charge. one key element is an advanced radar. >> the radar searches, locates, tracks, and intercepts and guides the intercepting missiles within several seconds, few seconds within the launching time. >> reporter: it is extremely hard
toward israel. they say they have been able to intercept more than a third of those rockets and the interceptor with a system called iron dome. fred pleitgen along the israel side of the gaza border in towns like ashkelon and elsewhere, he got an up close look at how iron dome works. take a look. >> reporter: a kill that possibly saved lives on the ground. this video shows an iron dome missile intercepting a rocket fired from gaza at tel aviv on sunday. the defense system had just been...
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for israel and israel to be those that seem so to them that a ground operation is justified to try cope with and the launching of this missiles now when this operation is going to start it would be decided by it seems to me that by israeli military generals but it seems to me that israel will not start its a ground operation against gaza until then they're sure that they destroyed much of the palestinian missive cavities through airstrikes which have been going on for more than forty eight hours now you are in gaza at the moment we continue to get reports up by the minute here in moscow regarding more minutes of rockets flying need to reduce eliminate tell of us well the i.d.f. amassing troops you all there at the moment can you tell us what's going on and what is the feeling as well way you are. well the feeling here in gaza is that this is not what we want a war is on that of the last thing on the mind of the palestinians of the one point five million palestinians who live in gaza we've barely just recovered from the israeli casket off where ition four years ago in which israel inflic
for israel and israel to be those that seem so to them that a ground operation is justified to try cope with and the launching of this missiles now when this operation is going to start it would be decided by it seems to me that by israeli military generals but it seems to me that israel will not start its a ground operation against gaza until then they're sure that they destroyed much of the palestinian missive cavities through airstrikes which have been going on for more than forty eight...
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from southern israel from hamas twenty five rockets were fired into southern israel over the night israeli anti missile defenses trying to shoot those down some of them land landing in in southern israel as well this immediate escalation in the fighting between hamas and israel came about yesterday afternoon with the targeted killing by environ airstrike of the the leader of hamas is military wing jobbery there's a bit there was a video released shortly after that of the missile striking his car and then a large scale aerial offensive. started after that over gaza loud explosions rocking all only the built up areas there about ten people reported killed including civilians there the great fear now that a ground invasion is imminent israeli sources have said that they're fully prepared to start a gun invasion if they deem it necessary and they have called up reservists possibly stuff yes and we've seen the tension escalating in the region over the past few weeks haven't we tom. we have hamas rocket attacks have been intensifying in the past couple of weeks hundreds of rockets fired from gaz
from southern israel from hamas twenty five rockets were fired into southern israel over the night israeli anti missile defenses trying to shoot those down some of them land landing in in southern israel as well this immediate escalation in the fighting between hamas and israel came about yesterday afternoon with the targeted killing by environ airstrike of the the leader of hamas is military wing jobbery there's a bit there was a video released shortly after that of the missile striking his...
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wants security for israel. you obviously want security for israel. improved conditions for the palestinians in gaza. and eventually a comprehensive peace. but the improved conditions for palestinians in gaza, is israel under -- if there were security, if there was a period of calm prepared to improve the lives of the million plus palestinians who are struggling in gaza? what are you prepared to do to improve their condition? >> here you have to put cause and effect in the right sequence. because when we pulled out of the gaza strip in 2005 and we took down all our settlements, you were here, you covered that story, wolf. the hope was we pull out of gaza and then israel and gaza can have a new set of relationships, there can be trade and tourism and people go back and forth. we impose restrictions only because of the hostility, because of the violence, because of the missiles after hamas took over. >> so if the missiles and the rockets stop, will you take steps to improve the lives of the palestinians in gaza? >> we've already been taking those steps.
wants security for israel. you obviously want security for israel. improved conditions for the palestinians in gaza. and eventually a comprehensive peace. but the improved conditions for palestinians in gaza, is israel under -- if there were security, if there was a period of calm prepared to improve the lives of the million plus palestinians who are struggling in gaza? what are you prepared to do to improve their condition? >> here you have to put cause and effect in the right sequence....
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here on the issue of anonymous about why water and israel takes israel. israel steals eighty percent of the water in the world spraying for itself. consumption of of and is really wrong that's a lie or or far library law and somebody who has power somalians facts and there are. you're real you have to familiarise you sell out your implies you have to go out of there with your dollars and the flag israel don't like the real world i don't believe you know there's facts nobody disputes. nobody. norman can you know who from the seas are in order for us in the worst. consume on not in the west and the south is a comparison are not on the wrong underground who are of an average probably still near where healy. is real it's about four times their consumption. of the total power of the total border of their liberal the water supply is only greece it was still nothing to do with. so to talk about the now that's that's a lie there are still are i think there are sociological reason. i can say or do you say in order to hold water for our flag words like notes not a
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it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a long-term commitment by gaza not to launch missiles. >> dana: andrea, that issue of a long-term situation or solving it quickly. hamas and netanyahu said we don't want a short-term solution. we want something more lasting. that would include something that both sides say they won't do. from your per speculative, you were talking earlier in morning about the timing of it. when you get a second term as a president, and second terms are usually filled with foreign policy. this is the first test of the second obama administration. >> andrea: right. a lot of people are looking at the timing and they are specu
it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a...
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to pressure israel into stopping this attack the u.s. has said for its part that israel has the right to defend itself and russia are also commenting on this saying that israel's attack is a disproportionate use of force against gaza so all of this international furor erupting over this attack that may or may result in a ground invasion those are the fears at the moment the latest from the southern border is the head of israel's southern command saying that this is just the beginning by what i was the egyptian foreign minister as you were saying a moment ago that actually telephoned hillary clinton the u.s. secretary of state just a couple of hours ago saying please rein in israel apparently it's done little. to no good whatsoever in tel aviv bottom thank you. or when i was joined live from embattled gaza by human rights activist eighty eight more about joining us here on the program it's a pleasure to see you today thank you for coming on israeli officials hailing the operation is a successful series of pinpoint strikes with minimal col
to pressure israel into stopping this attack the u.s. has said for its part that israel has the right to defend itself and russia are also commenting on this saying that israel's attack is a disproportionate use of force against gaza so all of this international furor erupting over this attack that may or may result in a ground invasion those are the fears at the moment the latest from the southern border is the head of israel's southern command saying that this is just the beginning by what i...
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hamas does not recognize israel, israel does not recognize hamas. this is an issue that will be sorted out once the israelis decide to have peace with the whole of the palestinian people, not only with certain factions. >> as anderson said, he's not denying that. he's just offering the viewers some clarification on the language here. >> this is not the issue right now, don. the issue right now is an israeli military campaign that are killing hundreds of people and wounding hundreds of people in the gaza strip. innocent people are paying a price for a campaign that is being carried out by a military power, the most powerful country in the middle east, and this has to come to an end. everybody has the right to defend themselves, but an occupying power trying to s subjugate an entire population to its military rule and you want to deny the people, that's absurd. >> anderson, moments ago, another explosion. let's look. >> i don't know if you can hear that. that was another quite large explosion. relatively close to where i am. i'm not sure if that was i
hamas does not recognize israel, israel does not recognize hamas. this is an issue that will be sorted out once the israelis decide to have peace with the whole of the palestinian people, not only with certain factions. >> as anderson said, he's not denying that. he's just offering the viewers some clarification on the language here. >> this is not the issue right now, don. the issue right now is an israeli military campaign that are killing hundreds of people and wounding hundreds...
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military correspondent for ha'aretz israel's leading newspaper the person they killed was israel's enforcer in gaza. why did israel break that cease fire and in carrying out that assassination at a very delicate time. well most of the speculation has been that it has to do with the upcoming elections in israel was a factor but i think it's a minor factor the basic fact is that israel has suffered a sequence of foreign powers see the buckles they try to orchestrate an attack on iran and failed mr netanyahu went to the u.n. . smuggle in a bomb the nuclear bomb that iran supposedly has when he held up the bomb for the general assembly he was seen to be quite correctly to be a maniac then there was the has flying a drone drone. weapon over or near by the moment it was the fact that qatar's head of state visited gaza there was the fact that prime minister earlier on of turkey was saying he was also going to go to gaza and then their own puppets the puppet regime established in the west bank the palestinian authority even their puppets were getting uppity and were threatening to go to the united
military correspondent for ha'aretz israel's leading newspaper the person they killed was israel's enforcer in gaza. why did israel break that cease fire and in carrying out that assassination at a very delicate time. well most of the speculation has been that it has to do with the upcoming elections in israel was a factor but i think it's a minor factor the basic fact is that israel has suffered a sequence of foreign powers see the buckles they try to orchestrate an attack on iran and failed...
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but a truth remains elusive for the palestinians accusing israel of stalling the cease fire. and as the u.s. pledges to work for call between the warring sides we'll look at why washington shows sympathy for innocent civilians being killed in some parts of the middle east but not so much in other words. this is actually coming to life from moscow with. israel's bombardment of gaza has intensified overnight despite talk of a pending cease fire bringing more death and chaos into the besieged palestinian territory. thank life plunged into darkness after one of the ny strikes caused a massive blackout the number of palestinians killed in the week long offensive now exceeds one hundred forty with more than a thousand people wounded as well as the residential areas being hit media compounds and reporters are increasingly becoming a target for israeli forces journalist harry fear is in gaza. to reporters to media workers that actually usually cameramen working as a cameraman here for the television talent channel well also targeted tonight as they were in a civilian taxi a taxi it c
but a truth remains elusive for the palestinians accusing israel of stalling the cease fire. and as the u.s. pledges to work for call between the warring sides we'll look at why washington shows sympathy for innocent civilians being killed in some parts of the middle east but not so much in other words. this is actually coming to life from moscow with. israel's bombardment of gaza has intensified overnight despite talk of a pending cease fire bringing more death and chaos into the besieged...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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israel's homeland. israel's iron dome, the missile defense system, aimed at one rocket this morning. as benjamin netanyahu warns his country is ready to expand with thousands of troops gathering near the israel-gaza border awaiting a possible ground invasion. leland vitter is live with much more. >> reporter: this is very much a country on the brink of war, about 5 to 600 yards from my shoulder is the gaza border and we've seen tanks and army person nell carriers maneuvering and the palestinians are taking potshots around this position trying to see if they can't hit a israeli tank platoon. it's been a bloody day through the air war with rockets flying over our heads and the israelis coming in for air strikes on gaza. at least a dozen people killed inside the gaza strip. many of those civilians, including two kids and a dozen israelis injured from the rockets flying out. >> this is quite literally the tip of the israeli speer, citizens soldiers, engineers or accountants drafted into service. tank platoo
israel's homeland. israel's iron dome, the missile defense system, aimed at one rocket this morning. as benjamin netanyahu warns his country is ready to expand with thousands of troops gathering near the israel-gaza border awaiting a possible ground invasion. leland vitter is live with much more. >> reporter: this is very much a country on the brink of war, about 5 to 600 yards from my shoulder is the gaza border and we've seen tanks and army person nell carriers maneuvering and the...
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repercussions for israel i mean it's not it's not in a good space right now. i think i think that the critical question for israel is egypt and how is egypt reacting and so far i think israel can be quite satisfied that though they did something quite risky and though what they did was upsetting to egypt because there had been a calm before the assassination that egypt brokered and israel violated that with the assassination. nevertheless they took this risk and the reaction from egypt has been far more muted than it could have been so far the greatest consequence has been for the egyptian ambassador to tel aviv to be withdrawn and that's something that even mubarak did nathan through all analysts with the middle east program of the international crisis group thank you thank you by this latest outburst of violence in the holy land has been left to many on the sidelines and already the lancelot i gave gaza is warning protests worldwide activist and demonstrators in a number of countries have rallied to decry the deaths and demand any needed end to the fighting.
repercussions for israel i mean it's not it's not in a good space right now. i think i think that the critical question for israel is egypt and how is egypt reacting and so far i think israel can be quite satisfied that though they did something quite risky and though what they did was upsetting to egypt because there had been a calm before the assassination that egypt brokered and israel violated that with the assassination. nevertheless they took this risk and the reaction from egypt has been...
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that's israel's perspective. who winds up getting killed more? israel has more fire power. three israeli's killed, 19 palestinians. four years ago with the last incursion, 13 israelis were killed but 1400 palestinians were killed, hundreds were civilians. when netanyahu the incredibly right wing leader of israel, was he says it's all justifiable. >> in recent days and weeks hamas and the other terrorist organizations in gaza have made normal life impossible for the 1 million israelis. no government would tolerate a situation where nearly a fifth of its people live under a constant barrage of rockets and missile fire. this is why israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> cenk: of course, which side is the u.s. going to fall on? well here, the departments are supposed to be leftwing, although i don't see that often either but when it comes to israel there will be no balanced approach. the u.s. state department deputy spokesperson says there is no justification for the violence that hamas and other terrorists organizations are employing
that's israel's perspective. who winds up getting killed more? israel has more fire power. three israeli's killed, 19 palestinians. four years ago with the last incursion, 13 israelis were killed but 1400 palestinians were killed, hundreds were civilians. when netanyahu the incredibly right wing leader of israel, was he says it's all justifiable. >> in recent days and weeks hamas and the other terrorist organizations in gaza have made normal life impossible for the 1 million israelis. no...
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supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained something. we have don't know what it is now. it did this with utter impunity. that in and of itself is a victory. >> i just think that the arab street is still up. when you hear that turkish prime minister calling israelis terrorists and you have the sense that charles calls it pornography but of the death of children among palestinians, there is great upset in the arab world. the question is can -- how does it play in syria? do iranians exploit it to their end? at the moment, if the grand troops can be restrained and netanyahu should be credited with responding to preside
supported israel, where there is unity in israel. relatively speaking. where the arab and the muslim street haven't risen up. what is the big channel? iran. so, i think it's possible. this is the optimistic view but i mostly believe it. it's quite possible that netanyahu is more strongly positioned to deal with iran at the enof this conflict than ten days ago. >> i call that wildly optimistic. i think hamas has not lost anything. in effect it will come out of these negotiations gained...
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commitment by israel not to target militants in gaza. to halt rocket fire into israel. nothing is a done deal. in the next hour we will hear from the spokeswoman for the israeli defense forces and we begin with a look at what has transpired over the last 24 hours. and it is remarkable that there is a cease fire when you consider how this wednesday started off. at midday no sign of atruce yet. at least two dozen people wounded. hamas praised the attack near the headquarters of the defense forces. farther south, a home was hit by a rocket. room after room left in ruins. more than 60 rockets were fired from gaza today. the others were intercepted. across the border in fagaza several large explosioned. the skyline of the city covered in smoke. the city on edge. on some streets buildings were turned to rubble. >> there used to be a small well-known shop here that has branchs throughout the city selling wedding and party dresses. there is a bouquet lying there in the rubble. the tar bet of the strike was the police station behind it. >> after hours of intense negotiations, hi
commitment by israel not to target militants in gaza. to halt rocket fire into israel. nothing is a done deal. in the next hour we will hear from the spokeswoman for the israeli defense forces and we begin with a look at what has transpired over the last 24 hours. and it is remarkable that there is a cease fire when you consider how this wednesday started off. at midday no sign of atruce yet. at least two dozen people wounded. hamas praised the attack near the headquarters of the defense...
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in israel under a rocket fire. i mean, you have to really to cover it properly you have to sort of see the humanity in both sides. >> and it really is a very human story on both sides of the border and regular life on both sides of the border ground to a halt. israel they have air raid warning signs and get cover. you don't see people on the streets. most people are indoors. >> here it's much more difficult. gaza is much poorer. even in the best of times life is much more difficult here than it is in israel. israel is in a sense a first world country in terms of living standards. here in gaza, about 75% to 80% of the population are refugees and they have moved out many of them have moved out of the refugee camps but you still have this situation where they look over the border and they remember the homes they lost and that might explain why there's so much passion here about this conflict. >> it's also such a densely populated area and the gaza city densely pop latted and rockets fired sometimes from residential ar
in israel under a rocket fire. i mean, you have to really to cover it properly you have to sort of see the humanity in both sides. >> and it really is a very human story on both sides of the border and regular life on both sides of the border ground to a halt. israel they have air raid warning signs and get cover. you don't see people on the streets. most people are indoors. >> here it's much more difficult. gaza is much poorer. even in the best of times life is much more difficult...
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israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and decysist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can't afford to sit back. so the air strikes, yes, they have been achieving some success, but hamas has still been lobbying those rockets over. we saw that today with strikes in jerusalem as well as in tel aviv, so it really comes down to that intelligence question. how many rockets does hamas have in its possession, and if hamas is able to get out of this with some rockets, that's a h
israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and decysist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been...
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well israel is being split clearly the government of israel has tried its best to try and work with any country on the world in order to prevent it but seemingly it's a huge success for the palestinians there are many in israel like myself like many other peace activists and n.g.o.s and israeli politicians who believe that this was the right thing to do because at the end of the day what the u.n. has voted is not only in favor of the palestinian appeal but they voted in favor of peace voting in favor of peace and two state solution is voting in favor of israel as well as voting for palestine. well also coming up there israel has secured unwavering u.s. support when it comes to the palestinian conflict on other issues washington should say you know. you're not going to be making decisions for us later in the program or nine statesmen is a big new year but is it think explains why the u.s. should establish boundaries in its relationship with. egypt national assembly is expected to vote on a new constitution later on thursday hoping to appease tens of thousands of protesters across the cou
well israel is being split clearly the government of israel has tried its best to try and work with any country on the world in order to prevent it but seemingly it's a huge success for the palestinians there are many in israel like myself like many other peace activists and n.g.o.s and israeli politicians who believe that this was the right thing to do because at the end of the day what the u.n. has voted is not only in favor of the palestinian appeal but they voted in favor of peace voting in...
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breaking news here on r t israel pummels gaza with strikes after assassinating the top military leader of hamas at least nine people are reported killed including children israeli troops are on standby for a ground invasion. a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive against gaza with fighter jets and warships attacking the occupied territory the operation began with the airstrike assassination of the military leader of hamas the palestinian group pledged to open the gates of hell in return ation well for more let's now cross live to tom barton he's in tel aviv so tom what can you tell us at this stage. well the situation down on the south
breaking news here on r t israel pummels gaza with strikes after assassinating the top military leader of hamas at least nine people are reported killed including children israeli troops are on standby for a ground invasion. a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts...
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state department, they don't recognize israel, state of israel. but it's a very powerful, military component and the social component. >> it's important to recognize there are multiple facets of hamas. born in the 1980s, came out of the muslim brotherhood where you see other alliances developing with other countries and you mentioned because they're born of the muslim brotherhood as well. born as a resistance movement but quickly realized that provide for the people would win the hearts and minds. and so yes you have the political wing, military wing, and the social wing, runs schools, hospitals, and they get the grassroots support, mainly from that side of things. >> what does it mean? you've got the cease-fire that happens. if there is in fact a time of calm here, what is the outcome of all of this? i mean, does hamas stay where it is or do they grow, do they become more powerful? who are losers and who are the winners? >> the pessimist in me, i said last time, i predicted they would come to a truce before a ground engagement happened and everyo
state department, they don't recognize israel, state of israel. but it's a very powerful, military component and the social component. >> it's important to recognize there are multiple facets of hamas. born in the 1980s, came out of the muslim brotherhood where you see other alliances developing with other countries and you mentioned because they're born of the muslim brotherhood as well. born as a resistance movement but quickly realized that provide for the people would win the hearts...
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on israel which is the very active part of the. koran in countdown to seize the file and to enter a truce and to find. a permanent solution for this confrontation between israel and hamas in gaza because the syrians and both sides are paying the price for this confrontation is a mass deliberately sacrificing its own people by using civilians as human shields . i don't think about this is our place size difference. of what is going to really. have to a very in mind. the civilians in gaza strip for more than five years of blockade from a siege and the israeli occupation actually it's effectively israeli occupation kl call it for the civilians in gaza how many calories whole money food we consume this is not a normal situation the civilians in gaza really suffer from this continuing situation but you are sorry to interrupt i was saying. that there is a delay here you're saying that negotiations should be pursued but while the mass continues to fire rockets into israel doesn't israel have the right to defend itself what else should it
on israel which is the very active part of the. koran in countdown to seize the file and to enter a truce and to find. a permanent solution for this confrontation between israel and hamas in gaza because the syrians and both sides are paying the price for this confrontation is a mass deliberately sacrificing its own people by using civilians as human shields . i don't think about this is our place size difference. of what is going to really. have to a very in mind. the civilians in gaza strip...
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first assumption israel is our ally and that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military. attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of the united states and it was it played a cat's paw role of representing u.s. interests in many parts of the world certainly in the middle east but not only there also as far afield as and gold and mozambique and nicaragua south africa and el salvador in all these places where israel backed up the u.s. provided arms to u.s. backed dictators etc and in that context the work of pro israeli lobbies the traditional jewish lobby the newer christian zionist lobbies all of that influence began to to join it intersected with the strategic value that israel was starting to have for the pentagon for the
first assumption israel is our ally and that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military. attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of...
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they will consider a cease-fire in israel and their attacks and the siege of gaza. >> israel has bombed building and at least 90 people have been killed and some 700 wounded since the air strikes began. >> the bombardment of gaza continues. israeli defense forces are picking targets they say it are connected to palestinian militants. the billionaire also among the latest casualties. across the border in israel, ground troops are massing in preparations for a possible invasion. israel has no mobilize and 40,000 reservists. elsewhere, diplomats are attempting to broker a ceasefire. in jerusalem, middle east peace envoy tony blair met with perez to stop the rocket attacks. >> it is clear we do not have any ambition to gain an advantage but we just want to stop the fire. >> more than 1000 rockets have been fired from a hamas- controlled gaza into israel. the defense system has stopped most of the rockets and from entering your system, but not all. hamas has two demands, says their exile leader in cairo. israel must under bombardment and they must lift the blockade of the strip. he said it w
they will consider a cease-fire in israel and their attacks and the siege of gaza. >> israel has bombed building and at least 90 people have been killed and some 700 wounded since the air strikes began. >> the bombardment of gaza continues. israeli defense forces are picking targets they say it are connected to palestinian militants. the billionaire also among the latest casualties. across the border in israel, ground troops are massing in preparations for a possible invasion....
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decides to regardless of election cycles in israel the united states or anywhere else if israel decides that it has exhausted every other option to attempt to stop iran's quest for a nuclear weapon and the only options left are military ones then i think they will . they will conduct that kind of operation now we talk often of some sort of aerial attack planes and missiles and so forth that is one option and israel has that capability but as we see already there have been and it's been reported in the press other options less direct options cyber attacks on iran's nuclear facilities even on its broader economy and so forth so we are not going to start snapping stocks in the olympic games and so forth that you see reported in the press so i think it's fair to say that both israel and other countries do that do not want wish to see iran achieve nuclear weapons are prepared to resort not only to economic sanctions political isolation but also. military and covert options to delay the program but in israel's case it say there's a consensus as far as i can tell in israel and it's not just pr
decides to regardless of election cycles in israel the united states or anywhere else if israel decides that it has exhausted every other option to attempt to stop iran's quest for a nuclear weapon and the only options left are military ones then i think they will . they will conduct that kind of operation now we talk often of some sort of aerial attack planes and missiles and so forth that is one option and israel has that capability but as we see already there have been and it's been reported...
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army colonel writes as washington still stand by israel no matter what. we have had a history in the united states governments. of unconditional support for the state of israel no matter what criminal acts it commits and so far the obama administration has been no different than any other administration i would ask what is israel trying to achieve here you have a population that's in a prison that has been under blockade for the last five years the israeli government is squeezing the people of gaza the united nations now says that by the year twenty twenty gaza will be unlivable the israeli attack on gaza it's not a war it's an attack there is really no defenses that the palestinians have they do have these rockets that they do fire and fortunately most of them don't hit any targets and all of the israeli government officials are saying that gaza needs to be reformatted as if it were if they've as if they were computer characters not human beings and of course we'll keep updating you on the developing situation in gaza and israel stay chained. as the bust
army colonel writes as washington still stand by israel no matter what. we have had a history in the united states governments. of unconditional support for the state of israel no matter what criminal acts it commits and so far the obama administration has been no different than any other administration i would ask what is israel trying to achieve here you have a population that's in a prison that has been under blockade for the last five years the israeli government is squeezing the people of...
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sixteen aircraft used by israel against gaza during israel's assault in two thousand and eight motorola this tech giant profits from israel surveillance systems checkpoints and military camps in the west bank as well as communication systems of the israeli army. so to talk more about the campaign to divest i was joined earlier by ana bolter the national organizer for u.s. campaign to end the israeli occupation i first asked her to explain what exactly divestment means. bestand is essentially the opposite of investment the idea is to stop investing in this case corporations that profit from the israeli occupation and the incredible work of the students at u.c. irvine students for justice in palestine u.c. irvine chapter being just one of dozens if not maybe over one hundred or hundreds now around the country that are working on campuses to end their campus since institutional complicity in the israeli occupation u.c. irvine victory is actually one of several over the past couple of weeks and through their hard work they were able to actually convince much of the student population that i
sixteen aircraft used by israel against gaza during israel's assault in two thousand and eight motorola this tech giant profits from israel surveillance systems checkpoints and military camps in the west bank as well as communication systems of the israeli army. so to talk more about the campaign to divest i was joined earlier by ana bolter the national organizer for u.s. campaign to end the israeli occupation i first asked her to explain what exactly divestment means. bestand is essentially...
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were reportedly fired from gaza into israel today u.n. secretary ban ki moon called for a cease fire in gaza saying a ground operation there must be avoided. while russians may be aimed at military targets inside gaza. and enjoys civilians and then each civilian infrastructure is. corrosive c.v.a. lives is only acceptable under any circumstances the excessive use of force is only open and must be rejected. meanwhile the u.s. is sending warships near israel on board are two thousand five hundred marines u.s. officials say they'll be on standby in case americans need to be evacuated from israel now the officials say the ships are not meant to serve any combat are all but the decision to send the ship signals a growing concern over just where the conflict is headed for more i spoke with r.t. and her national correspondent policy where i first asked her if talk about the cease fire has been any comfort for people there. well if that means comfort because it is a sign on the horizon that what we've worked at for the past seven days is coming t
were reportedly fired from gaza into israel today u.n. secretary ban ki moon called for a cease fire in gaza saying a ground operation there must be avoided. while russians may be aimed at military targets inside gaza. and enjoys civilians and then each civilian infrastructure is. corrosive c.v.a. lives is only acceptable under any circumstances the excessive use of force is only open and must be rejected. meanwhile the u.s. is sending warships near israel on board are two thousand five hundred...
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where israel sits down with hamas? >> this is really political etch loan, but i don't see a near time of -- you know, a day that will be in the near future for this kind of reconciliation. >> there are clearly a number of israelis who wanted more of an operation. prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from the idf perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe even tens of thousands. going deeply into the rockets area where the storage is. looking for those tunnels exactly, because we have bombed something like 140 tunnels in the current operation, out of 400. so going deeply into those places and those civilian areas, where the -- the weaponry and the ammunition is wrareally hid there. this is something you can do only with ground forces. >> do you have any idea that hamas, how many they still have left? >> a small number to our estimation. however -- >> like dozens or -- >> yeah, even less than dozens, keep in mind that iran will try to smuggle in more rockets of this kind s
where israel sits down with hamas? >> this is really political etch loan, but i don't see a near time of -- you know, a day that will be in the near future for this kind of reconciliation. >> there are clearly a number of israelis who wanted more of an operation. prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from the idf perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe even tens of thousands. going deeply into the rockets area where the...